PHOENIX

Subiect: Re: PHOENIX Joi Aug 23, 2007 6:24 pm

Astept cu nerabdare unplugged-ul pe care l-a promis Nicu Covaci pentru anul asta. Nu poate fi decat ceva deosebit, mai ales daca va folosi numai tehnologie super, asa cu spune in interviu.
Altadata a promis un film dar si continuarea la cartea despre Phoenix (inca doua volume parca). Apropo, are cineva vol 1?

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o am eu, in format pdf
da-mi buzz pe mess si o trimit
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Subiect: Re: PHOENIX Joi Sept 06, 2007 10:05 pm

Rating-urile pt Phoenix si Sfinx de pe Prog-Archives se datoreaza in primul rand noua, romanilor. Cei din afara n-au prea contribuit dintr-un motiv simplu: n-au auzit.
Cu toate astea, cei cativa amici de pe PA carora le-am dat sa asculte progresiv romanesc au fost placut impresionati, de Phoenix mai ales. Muzical, Cantafabulele stau intre oricare din albumele mari ale anilor 70. Nici cu Cei ce ne-au dat nume nu mi-e rusine deloc; am o preferinta speciala pentru albumul asta pentru ca mi se pare mai liber, mai deschis, desi de categorie mai usoara, si pentru ca e singurul loc unde Covaci arata tot ce poate la chitara solo (nu ca n-ar fi foarte bun si pe celalalte albume, dar acolo face mai mult team-work). Mugur de fluier mi-a placut in adolescenta, acum insa mi se pare album de 3 stele din 5, pentru ca e cel mai putin progresiv din trilogia lor clasica si e foarte concentrat pe ideea de balada. Fiind eu intr-o atitudine "progresiva" de cativa ani, nu-l mai pot gusta. Poate mai tarziu...

Ce fac acum ma lasa rece si sincer nu stiu daca fac bine continuand sa concerteze. O sa-mi cumpar albumele noi pentru a-mi completa colectia, ina doar atat.

Dupa ce a inceput thread-ul asta a aparut o recenzie excelenta la Cantafabule a unuia din cei mai severi recenzenti de pe ProgArchives, Hugues Chantraine: http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=120647

Subiect: Re: PHOENIX Joi Sept 06, 2007 10:16 pm

Ah, Phoenix...forum-ul perfect unde sa ma bateti mar fiindca nu i-am ascultat. Laughing

Si, sincer, nu stiu ce ma opreste. Neutral

stai calm. si eu am ascultat Phoenix dupa King Crimson si Pain of Salvation si multe altele. In cazul tau mult mai multe

Subiect: Re: PHOENIX Joi Sept 06, 2007 10:30 pm

:idea:

Pai candva tot va trebui sa ajungi si la asta. Un sfat: ordinea buna de ascultat albumele lor clasice e chiar cea a aparitiei - Cei ce ne-au dat nume, apoi Mugur de fluier, si in final Cantafabulele. Dupa mine, poti sa ignori restul. Eventual sa asculti compilatia "Anii 60 - Vremuri", cu perioada lor beat; sunt simpatici si marcheaza un moment important in cultura romana.

Subiect: Re: PHOENIX Dum Sept 09, 2007 1:29 pm

Subiect: Re: PHOENIX Dum Sept 09, 2007 1:40 pm

Cantofabule e doar eroarea Electrecordului, facuta imotriva vointa trupei. Cant of a Bule e numele bootleg-ului belgian, care a ajuns in mana lui Sean Trane (titlul, descrierea copertei corespund). Mai mult despre Cant of a Bule: http://ro.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cant_of_a_Bule

Subiect: Re: PHOENIX Sam Sept 22, 2007 10:45 am

Datorita faptului ca am devenit colaborator pe ProgArchives, rating-ul meu la Cantafabule a crescut in greutate si a urcat albumul in top-ul celor mai importante albume ale genului pe locul 8! Laughing

(de pe vreo 10-11, parca). Iar cand voi transforma rating-ul intr-o recenzie si va conving si pe voi sa scrieti despre el, va fi vai si-amar! Vom domina lumea! Laughing

Subiect: Re: PHOENIX Sam Sept 22, 2007 10:51 am

Burebista would be proud !

Subiect: Re: PHOENIX Sam Sept 22, 2007 12:24 pm

Felicitari andu!

Subiect: Re: PHOENIX Sam Sept 22, 2007 12:32 pm

Subiect: Re: PHOENIX Lun Sept 24, 2007 1:29 am

Cel mai bun (orgasmatic) moment cu Phoenix-ul modern pe care l-am avut pana acum: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XABaIP_eyzg
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Subiect: Re: PHOENIX Dum Sept 30, 2007 8:08 pm

Seria mea de recenzii Phoenix sunt in continuare in stare de proiect, asa ca am sa va incant cu alte doua recenzii faine de pe ProgArchives.

Cantofabule (Cantafabule)
1975
Studio Album

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Review by
Sean Trane
(Hugues Chantraine)
[Special Collaborator Prog-Folk Specialist]
Posted 3:47:54 AM EST, 5/3/2007

4.5 stars really!!!

Still not sure whether this album is called Cantofabule (fabulous song) or Cant Of A Bule
(as the disc label being called so) or as my Romanian stepsister said Cantafabule, but
the track listing is correct. The artwork being similar but monochromic red and carrying
the cat # Fanny 100, it is most likely a bootleg, but this was the only way to get to
listen (outside the PA’s samples) to a full album. This sextet’s third album is maybe the
best appreciated by progheads, but apparently the last one before the fled the
Ceaucescu regime.

The original double album was a concept based on some traditional Romanian themes
based on adaptation of poets Seban Foarta and Andrei Ujica and inspired on a Dimitri
Bolintineanu book called Istoria Ieroglifa (speaking of a “bestiaire” of fantastic mythical
creatures), this almost 70 min-long piece is indeed one of the best thing to come from
the old Dacian province. If I speak of Dacia (relating it to the Roman Empire times
instead of Valachia or Moldavia-Bessarabia), it is because the general feel relates a bit
to Italian prog (this is greatly due to the similarity of both languages), but the Timisoara
(in Transylvania where the revolt started) group developed a very ambitious project
that mixed some medieval folk with hard rock fronted by a fuzzed-out guitar.

The two-parts lengthy opening track Invocatie gives out right away the main dimension
of their music, a fairly hard prog dominated by a fuzz-guitar, where all musicians hold
their own. Surprising how modern for the day they sounded apparently having a moog
synth. During this track, the group moves to different moods and passages including
a “folk” one and there is a harpsichord thrown in there too and the track is a very
captivating intro. Moving from the Harpsichord/flute piece Unicorn (sung in Old French)
to the mediocre beat-rock of the sacred beetle (Scarabeului), the albums moves quickly
to another highlight about dolphins (Delfinul), where the group shows the extent of
their considerable talent in this folky ballad. Going through the dragon (semi-hard
rocking), the snake (with a terrible sounding violin), a special kind of bird (Calandrinon)
that’s supposed to accompany you into the underworld (another highlight in my book
with superb bass work), the moose and the mongoose, the siren and a few other
mythical creatures, the group continues tirelessly (even if you do, partly due to the
length and the repetition of tracks that hammer on the same nail and the Romanian
singing) until another pure psych-beat-RnR (track 11, a bit of a filler really) breaks the
cycle of prog/folk tracks alternating.

The album gets back on track with the splendid Cintic-Lu (hawk) track which definitely
seals the fate of the concept as excellent (just short of brilliant), followed by another
fabulous Zoomahia (starting with the same electronic sounds that you found on the
start of the album, but much longer and sounding like Gong) and the album closing on
their fetish Phoenix, rising from the ashes.

Overall this album holds very few flaws (given its communist era background), few
fillers and a bunch of superb if inhabitual prog folk tracks, which makes this album a
masterpiece of its own. Clearly this album should get the honours from a full
remastering and mini-Lp treatment, as it stands in the top 10 of the ex-soviet block.

SymPhoenix - Timişoara
1992
Studio Album

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Review by
cacha71
Posted 10:15:14 AM EST, 9/30/2007

Detailed information on this album is scarce, so forgive me for any inaccuracies in this review!

This album by the Romanian band PHOENIX, recorded in 1992, is named after the the town in Romania from which the band
originated, Timisoara, also the town where the 1990 revolution in that country started following the fall of communism. It was
recorded in the wake of a huge comeback by the band after the collapse of the communist regime.

"Timisoara"
departs from previous PHOENIX albums in being recorded tegether with
the Radio Philharmonic Orchestra Bucuresti and choral background
vocals, lending it its own unique orchestral style. Generally, the
music is, for want of better words, "heavier" in style, with strong
guitar, drumms and vocals, creating more of rock (some might argue,
westernised) sound. However, the band still firmly maintain their links
to Romanian folk music and incorporate traditional instruments, in
particular the oboe (Adrian Petrescu) and the violin (Mani Neuman).

The result is some excellent and
powerfully emotive music. Lead singer Nicolae Covaci provides strong,
emotional vocals, and this effect is enhanced by the use of background
chorals. A good example is the track "Fata Verde." Also, throughout the
album a perfect balance has been struck through being consistant in
style without running the risk of becoming too tedious.

However,
much as I like the album, I cannot award it five stars for two basic
reasons. Firstly, many of the tracks are remakes of previous material,
I would have liked to have seen more original pieces. Secondly, I would
prefer the lyrics in "Tamara", "Would You Follow Me", "Stars Dance" and
"Running" to be in Romanian (even if I don't understand much of them!)
as their being in English seems to me somehow "out of place" in a
progressive folk album. The need to reach wider audiences should not be
at the expense of originality.

I recommend this album particularly to all
those of you out there who are into progressive folk rock, but it is a
valuable addition to anyone's prog rock collection. It is constistently
varied enough for one not to feel the need to skip tracks, a true sign
of a four or five star album.

Enjoy!

Thanks to Andu for providing band member details

Smile

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Subiect: Re: PHOENIX Vin Oct 05, 2007 3:16 am

Datorita ratingurilor lui Aldi si Petrica (il voi invita sa treaca si pe aici la noi) pe ProgArchives, Cantafabule tinde sa ajunga acolo unde ii e locul, adica in frunte! :applause:

Pe moment e pe locul cinci in topul albumelor esentiale din sectiunea de ProgFolk. Dupa Thick as a Brick, Red Queen to Gyphon Three, Obras de Violeta Parra si Alturas de Machu Picchu! Cei ce ne-au dat nume e si el pe 11, iar Zalmoxe e si el pe 15, dar ce cauta Zalmoxe la ProgFolk nu inteleg, o sa ma ocup sa nu ramana acolo.
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Subiect: Re: PHOENIX Lun Dec 03, 2007 3:59 pm

Oameni buni!!!

Poate ca nu ati aflat asa ca folosesc aceasta ocazie sa va anunt... Concerte aniversare 45 de ani de Phoenix in Cluj, Bucuresti si evident TImisoara.

http://www.transsylvania-phoenix.net/index.php/events?lg=ro